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i think another 2-3 years. id already has tech5 as the engine, and i think id will use that (at least as a basis) so it wont be as long as doom 3 (which they had to write a new engine). also i cant wait to see games with tech5 in it since right now ue3 is the only real next gen engine available and while it looks nice and is amazing i would like some competition.